Vol. 4-Interview-Zahay

A. Veresano interviewing Frank Zahay -16- 8/21/72 Tape 27-2

AV You mean cement side walks you had, boardwalks?

FZ No just ground but they were pretty well tramped down.

AV Then this other end was facing like north, where its sloping down it was facing north?

FZ Yeh.

AV Say that again, the castlegarden near the hotel and in back of the doctor's office used to be a mule stable who told you that? ??

FZ Why Mr. [blank space] mother when she was a girl she worked there, you know and that's where she got the story from.

AV She worked in the mule stable?

FZ No, after they made a 4 family house out of it before it was a mule stable.

AV The fence ran up to the west end to the mule stable and this part on Main Street what did it have?

FZ This is the main street it came up from the side of the mule stable, oh up to about 50 ft. off the road from the west end of the stable up this way and then down this way, what did I say, 200ft. 100 or 150ft around there.

AV And then was there any other part of the fence that extended on the other end of the mule stable?

FZ This is the east end of the stable, no fence around there.

AV Where was the entrance on Main Street?

FZ The entrance must have been around here somewhere down towards this stable

AV There was a kind of road going into it?

FZ Yeh, there was a road going down into it.

AV Where was the front entracne to the mule stable?

FZ Oh, about the center.

AV Facing the road?

FZ Yeh, facing the street.

AV Was this little road off to the stable was it a branched off dirveway or curved or straight up to the road?

FZ Well I wouldn't say it was a road it was a yard.

AV Like a driveway where you'd drive the mules up to the sable?

A. Veresano interviewing Frank Zahay -17- 8/21/72 Tape 27-2

FZ An opening and once you'd get into the opening you could go anywhere there was was no special driveway or anything, just a yard.

AV So the front entrance was enclosed with the gate that's why I'm puzzled this is a fenced off area back there that's the yard, is there a gate around there, was there a gate around the front part of the building also?

FZ I think there was but I don't remember.

AV 40ft. up from the stable the stable boss had a little shack?

FZ Right there about 10 x 10 or so I'd say that anyway, painted red the machine shop and a carpenter shop that was all under one roof on #2 breaker and they had a warehouse that was a good size building and they had a water tank at Lokeys and they had a oil house and they had to have a hose house and then a duck shanty.

A. Varesano interviewing Helen Fedorsha -18- 8/21/72 Tape # 27-2

HF Was Mr Barto working for Cox's and he was living in Freeland and he was hurt I guess in the mines and he had his leg amputated and then he went into the shoe repair business and if I'm not mistaken I think he was I have an idea that he was way down on Ridge Street had a little shop there but then Mrs. Cox had, there was a house in the back of where Fairchilds' were living right in the alley where Fairchild's garages are there was a house in the back there it was a single home I couldn't describes houses but it was a single home.

AV Was it like something around here now?

HF No, no it was a single home it wasn't like Mrs. Timcos at all, and then Mrs. Cox had that house moved over to right across from where John [?etula] lives now and and that's where, after they had the house all fixed up Mr. Barto moved to Eckley here and he had a shoemaker shop. They lived in a like in the back and in the front he had his shoemaker shop.

AV How big was that thing?

HF I wouldn't know how big it was but a shoemaker shop was every bit as big as this kitchen.

AV About 15 or 20 feet?

HF It's not 20 feet, I don't think its 20 feet maybe it was I don't know I should know because I measured for the carpet that time but I don't remember what it is I wouldn't know if its 15 or 20 feet anyway he had his machine in there and like a fence, a little bannister that when customers came in they couldn't walk back in where the machinery was and all we used to sit there and he used to repair shoes and I guess we had that up until the time that he died because he died while here at Eckley I'm positive he died while here at Eckley and his daughter is married to Teddy Shane's brother.