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decided I didn't want to do it anymore. Obviously everybody knows a band's
life on the road is really hard. I at any point was not only a sound man but was a
tour manager and a road manager, and a road manager's job generally means
that you're the first one up and the last one to bed. I'd gotten to the point where I
could make some money doing it, which was nice. I'd never done it to make
money. I'd done it with my
friends, and that was the fun of it.

What kinds of bands were you working with?
I went out with a whole lot of
Austin bands, the bands that
were dubbed the New Sincerity
bands, virtually all of them at
one point or another. Doctor's
Mob, the Wild Seeds, the True
Believers, the Reivers, and I
went out with the reggae band
the Killers Bees, and went out
with the Prime Movers from
Boston - they were a really,
really good band.

So what was it like touring in the Reagan era?
It was great fun. There was a big
live music audience around the
country. There wasn't much
money to keep being able to do
it. And it was cheap enough
for me to keep living in Austin
- I remember when I first went out with Doctor's Mob and they promised me. I
wanna say $400 for the month, but my rent was $182 and my bills were next to
nothing. I got free beer and food, so it seemed like a good deal to me. I had so
much fun.

And that's not feasible unless you're with a successful touring band these days.
And it was a lucky thing and something that's really different and does concern
me about Austin now in terms of musicians. I had all these friends that were
musicians and you could make a little monty on the road and play a few shows
in Austin. It would be enough money to encourange you to continue doing it to
where you might be good enough to make some kind of living at it. Or at lease
make some kind of creative statement, even it you didn't make a living at it, at
least be able to make a good record or two. And it was inexpensive enough to

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