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Parmenides, that is, the Theaetutus is remarkable as saying nothing about ideas when it lay directly in the author's [?] to appeal to them, if this faith in them was unshaken. But that is not all. In the second place, we know that Aristotle, who became of disciple of Plato somewhere about this time, --possibly haf a dozen years later, -- refuted the doctrine of ideas; and his arguments are to be read in his notes. Now, it is to be remembered that it was under the name of Socrates that the doctrine of ideas was advanced and defended; and although it is not to be supposed that the historic Socrates held to the doctrine, yet they were so associated with the name of Socrates that Aristotle, in arguing against them, usually says "Socrates says" so and so, even when he is quoting Plato verbatim. Now in this dialogue Socrates is [represented?] as putting forward the theory of ideas; and as being completely refuted. The arguments used, if not exactly Aristotle's, are, quite clearly, attempts at stating the arguments which Aristotle uses in his