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Logic IV. 32 was a good unless it were honorable while Socrates thought that in itself apart from its consequences pleasure is good (Protagoras p. 351, B and C) and was rather surprised that Protagoras should side with the [relgar?] on that point. He Socrates thought that the important point to consider was the duration of the pleasuer as well as its intensity. Various things make me think that this passage in the Protagoras correctly represents Socrates, even if the whole dialogue is not historical. The opinion expressed is not Plato's own. Xenophon fully bears out this view. (See Zeffler. Socrates and the Socratic Schools 3rd Ed of Translation. Part II Chap. vii C) But the doctrine could not have been at all a prominent point in the teachings of Socrates.
12. The [Cynics?] as is well known held pleasure to be a positive evil. The only good was virtue and virtue was knowledge. Yet they despised all knowledge that was not practical and useful thus completing a circle. Their stupic theory of knowledge would seem to reduce that to obstinate self-consistency and

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